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Bob wrote:Thanks, are there any other companies I could try (with white Kangoo and no experience)?
If not VAT registered, what costs can I claim and how?
Sorry but I am really new in this business.
Bob, I'm sorry, but it seems too obvious that you really have no idea what you are doing and neither I nor anybody else can give you all you need to know in a thread on a forum.

You need to register with HMRC as self employed. At the end of the tax year (March) you will get a tax return form to fill in, where you enter details of your income and expenditure - expenditure is the "costs" you are "claiming". That gives a total income after expenses and you pay tax on that. One important thing to bear in mind is that you don't pay tax until the end of the year - you don't pay it each week as you go on. So you MUST have enough spare cash at the end to pay your tax bill.

That is a very, very, very simple and incomplete idea of how it works. There is much more to it. You need to read all you can and then you'll start to understand.

But honestly, if you haven't already started with CS, you'd be better off getting rid of the van and finding a job with an employer.
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What my friend above said

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Bob Johnson wrote:What my friend the dick above said
:lol:
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EnsonExpress wrote:
Bob Johnson wrote:What my friend the dick above said
:lol:
Ah, I didn't call you a silly billy, I said you were being a silly billy. I therefore don't think you are a silly billy, but displaying at that moment an uncharacteristic trait. :wink:

When are you coming round with the pie anyway?

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Bob, on my contract that I didnt sign, it stated that I could not work in a similar capacity for 3 months after leaving CS, also any poached customers would have a 1 k charge per loss.

This is a tough business, I would take Ensons advice.

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Bob Johnson wrote:When are you coming round with the pie anyway?
You'll have to help me out with this one? - I'm usually very very good with subtle, but this one's got me beat.
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EnsonExpress wrote:
Bob wrote:Thanks, are there any other companies I could try (with white Kangoo and no experience)?
If not VAT registered, what costs can I claim and how?
Sorry but I am really new in this business.
Bob, I'm sorry, but it seems too obvious that you really have no idea what you are doing and neither I nor anybody else can give you all you need to know in a thread on a forum.

You need to register with HMRC as self employed. At the end of the tax year (March) you will get a tax return form to fill in, where you enter details of your income and expenditure - expenditure is the "costs" you are "claiming". That gives a total income after expenses and you pay tax on that. One important thing to bear in mind is that you don't pay tax until the end of the year - you don't pay it each week as you go on. So you MUST have enough spare cash at the end to pay your tax bill.

That is a very, very, very simple and incomplete idea of how it works. There is much more to it. You need to read all you can and then you'll start to understand.

But honestly, if you haven't already started with CS, you'd be better off getting rid of the van and finding a job with an employer.
I lost my job, just bought a van and have no choice, have to be self employed courier now, not many opportunities in my area - long story.

Can I claim the petrol I use as my "costs" at the end of the tax year?
I think CS pays tax on 46p they pay me.

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Where did you get the idea CS pays tax on the 46p they pay you? Because to be gentle, that's a load of BO*L**KS.

Petrol is of course part of your costs, which go on your year end tax return. Everything you spend in order to do your work is "costs". Another large one will be insurance. Generally speaking, you don't have to list all the details of the costs - it will be enough to enter costs as £5,000, but you MUST have receipts for it all and it ~MUST be only for the job, no meals out, trips to the seaside, betting slips.

You HAVE to keep some sort of records - keep all your receipts, especially for petrol, which will be one of the biggest spending items.

So find the local TNT depot and try them, because they pay better than CS.
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Enson, I feel sorry for Bob. He needs help and guidance. The best advice you have already given him but he seems to be backed into a corner. Trouble is the more help he gets the deeper the mire he could get into.

Bob, please think very carefully about this, it may be frustrating for you with the job situation but try to find anything perhaps while working as a courier but keep your options open and don't expect success as a courier, it's unlikely, especially with CS.

You mention petrol, if you have a petrol engine are they not less economical and shorter lived than diesel ?

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Bob, where are you based? I might have a phone number for your local TNT depot.
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Bob wrote:
EnsonExpress wrote:
Bob wrote:Thanks, are there any other companies I could try (with white Kangoo and no experience)?
If not VAT registered, what costs can I claim and how?
Sorry but I am really new in this business.
Bob, I'm sorry, but it seems too obvious that you really have no idea what you are doing and neither I nor anybody else can give you all you need to know in a thread on a forum.

You need to register with HMRC as self employed. At the end of the tax year (March) you will get a tax return form to fill in, where you enter details of your income and expenditure - expenditure is the "costs" you are "claiming". That gives a total income after expenses and you pay tax on that. One important thing to bear in mind is that you don't pay tax until the end of the year - you don't pay it each week as you go on. So you MUST have enough spare cash at the end to pay your tax bill.

That is a very, very, very simple and incomplete idea of how it works. There is much more to it. You need to read all you can and then you'll start to understand.

But honestly, if you haven't already started with CS, you'd be better off getting rid of the van and finding a job with an employer.
I lost my job, just bought a van and have no choice, have to be self employed courier now, not many opportunities in my area - long story.

Can I claim the petrol I use as my "costs" at the end of the tax year?
I think CS pays tax on 46p they pay me.
Please don't it...you will regret it. You won't get paid enough, in after 3 months you will be in a worse state.

Its a cycle, drivers come in, realise they don't make enough, to be replaced by more people in the same situation. This is how CS has enough drivers that they pay a pittance.

I can't believe you went a bought a van and only then started looking into things :shock:

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My Gosport Gumtree has ads for poo sprint every week
Also the Hedge end depot does alot of Hermes poo like their John lewis waitrose click and collect
deliveries to store
To many parcels not enough hours in the day

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Peter, as you are Hampshire based, do you know what happened to the Dash It operation.? If the drivers are still there, staff etc.? There is an example on here of one takeover being a whipeout of drivers and staff within a year.

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Mate of mine got chatting with CS driver today, 13 plate sprinter, gets 90 Pplm. My mate said they quoted us 70 to 80, he said that's the price they quote to push you out, not sure how true that is. He also said he gets back loads but has to wait.

So CS take over Crisis in Northampton and are using one of their own drivers from Leicester depot to pick up from Northampton from an ex Crisis customer. The start of the erosion has begun.

The CS dude said the Crisis drivers would get their old rate pre takeover for Crisis contracts, that's ok if they give the work to Crisis drivers, which of course they won't, why would they ? They can save 10 p per mile on the rate using their own !!

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over took a cs driver today ( as you do ) and he had half a sticker pack fitted in that it was half missing . I did wonder if therefore he would pay half the weekly rate .....

does make you think , these poor sods are paying to advertise the outfit they work out !!!!! i dont know who came up with that one but its genius and horrific , the capitalist says thats good working practices ad all subbys must pay there way plus can float it past the tax man regardless and the socialist in me wants to shoot someone in the face :suspicious:

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Anybody know the charge per week for CS PDA ? Also how is it insured, who is liable if it gets damaged ?

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nads wrote:Anybody know the charge per week for CS PDA ? Also how is it insured, who is liable if it gets damaged ?
The PDA is part of the courier pack i.e uniform T shirts, Jacket, Hi Viz I think they do fleeses as well the charges are £24 pw if you wear the t-shirts.
if you wear tge T-shirts and have decalls on the van then it goes down to £20 pw inc VAT you can get cheaper if you have full van wrap :yikes:
Not good if you want to do work for other companies LoL.
The PDA is on loan to you and is not insured so if you lose it or it gets nicked then you're liable.
I do jobs for them but not at the normal small van rate so do ok :P

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Thanks Q, do you know the value of the pda and what happens if it gets damaged. Also do you know their small van rate , not the one you get ?

I almost went third party at my rate but didn't fancy waiting 60 days for my money.

My mates stayed on which is why I'm asking the questions, they are pretty much in the dark.

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nads wrote:Also do you know their small van rate , not the one you get ?

My mates stayed on which is why I'm asking the questions, they are pretty much in the dark.
Your mates need to ask CS what they are paying, don't you think? Are you getting paid for all the advice and representation you are giving them? Have you built up your case yet?

Perhaps try reading what others have already posted higher up in this thread. :rolleyes: :no:
Bob wrote:I think CS pays tax on 46p they pay me.
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I can only go by what I have been paid in the past from them and it has been anyhting from 49p plm to aorund 62p plm small van, currantly on quite a bit more than that plm but its all contract dependant some companies pay a premium for Direct van and priority delivery e.c.t
I am not defending or representing C5 I am just a driver like anyone else and choose not to display van signage just wear the T-shirts.
I can tell you that the courier pack includes PDA rental , uniform and GIT I did not pay any form of deposit when I signed up to take on work from them.
As I said before it works for me but understand it does not work out for everyone and yes there are a fair few who have a go and descide it's not working for them.
I know a few who make a very good living but also know of the few that just scrape by, it seems to be alll about the luck of the draw being in the right place right time! and yes we all get dead miles sometimes LoL but that happens to everyone at times just got to keep on going!
Big companies are all the same they will always take the lions share of anything I just say no if I do not think a job is worth doing and wait for the next one and there is always something else along LoL.


I dont know of anyone who has lost PDA so cannot answer as to what happends I spose it has to be paid for, probabley so much a week! LoL

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Enson if you read back a current CS driver said he was getting 45 ppm . At the hotel we were told 35 to 40. He said they quote a low rate to make you leave.

So I was seeking clarification from a current driver.

I don't expect money for helping my friends.

No I havnt finished yet, it's still on going. The Crisis drivers were told they didn't have to pay for pda, now it's not yet.

You may get bored with it but look at the activity on the forum this topic has created, unlike most of the rest which are dead in the water.

There are still quite a few new guys looking to start up , surely the more up to date info the better ?





After your unjustified attempts at discrediting me, I certainly see no reason why I should justify myself to you.

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Surely our latest poster Qclife has demonstrated "the truth". If you have no oomph and cower in the background and admit you have no alternative plans then quite rightly CS or anyone else will take advantage pay 40p a mile and charge for all the add ins. If like the new guy and Enson and a lot of others you set your rate on the day according to the degree of difficulty of the job on offer and stick to it take it or leave it CS - you may find in the first instance you are less busy but in the longer term richer. Said many times self employed means your own boss and the quicker you accept supply and demand and forget the "united brotherhood" approach the better.

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